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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Skin Microstructure Deformation with Displacement Map Convolution
« on: June 08, 2015, 03:35:07 AM »
Paul DeBevec has been my hero since HDR days:)
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Most reasonable DSLR for multi-cam face capture setup
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:51:33 AM »
I work at full res all the time.
Not sure why people are complaining.
Perhaps they are comparing zoom to prime.
Not sure why people are complaining.
Perhaps they are comparing zoom to prime.
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Most reasonable DSLR for multi-cam face capture setup
« on: June 03, 2015, 12:40:36 AM »
I am very happy with my 80 x 3200D's and get great results.
So does Alex Henry with 90+.
Camera sync is great at 1/100sec - no black frames - ever.
At 1/160 a not every take is perfect.
The big plus with Nikon is that the 3200D, 3300D and 3500D all have the same sensor and integrate well with each other including synchronisation.
If I need more cameras, I can easily upgrade.
Canon do not do this - every model has a different sensor&shutter making a Canon system limited for on going development.
Canon also have a non supporting attitude in Australia, even after purchasing 60 x 10D with $4k each back in 2003.
Nikon were far better (not great) to deal with.
Lets face it, most companies with the exception of the US are nothing more than box pushers.
I think results are based more on correct camera placement and lighting.
Nothing is easy.
So does Alex Henry with 90+.
Camera sync is great at 1/100sec - no black frames - ever.
At 1/160 a not every take is perfect.
The big plus with Nikon is that the 3200D, 3300D and 3500D all have the same sensor and integrate well with each other including synchronisation.
If I need more cameras, I can easily upgrade.
Canon do not do this - every model has a different sensor&shutter making a Canon system limited for on going development.
Canon also have a non supporting attitude in Australia, even after purchasing 60 x 10D with $4k each back in 2003.
Nikon were far better (not great) to deal with.
Lets face it, most companies with the exception of the US are nothing more than box pushers.
I think results are based more on correct camera placement and lighting.
Nothing is easy.
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Planning to open 3D scan studio
« on: May 26, 2015, 10:19:15 AM »
I think the raspberry pi system is good as they can get that featureless detail with projection that a bare array can have trouble with, they are cheap and easy, although, it does lack texture quality for high end work (ok for small figurines) has too small a footprint and is still not instant enough to capture a jumping dog, small child or other action shots.
I think you will find that most malls have height restrictions - in Australia, a 'pop up' can't be over 1.5 meters high.
I think I am like everyone else now - you have to build and try yourself as no one seems to be giving away secrets:)
Good luck:)
I think you will find that most malls have height restrictions - in Australia, a 'pop up' can't be over 1.5 meters high.
I think I am like everyone else now - you have to build and try yourself as no one seems to be giving away secrets:)
Good luck:)
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Planning to open 3D scan studio
« on: May 26, 2015, 05:06:48 AM »
@Foodman - Alexx Henry is trying the mobile approach.
Sadly, he did not reach his kickstarter goal, but good on him for trying.
I like his thinking - create awareness with a great product, opens up possibilities to a franchise, and being in many areas will see him as the industry expert & leader.
I have always considered the dslr array best for B2B with high quality for electronic use.
3D figurines make it a value added product but it is not the main money area.
People do not value what they pay little for.
When was the last time you heard someone complain about the new (not second hand) car they purchased?
If the figurine business was handled like good photography businesses then they would all be making $1MM+ / year.
There has to be customer engagement with an experience.
A good sales person presenting the images well, will do very well.
I intend to do this and make it a premium piece with the large 'bust' figurine.
Small colour figurines are too gimmicky and people will not pay for a gimmick.
A bronze bust to be commissioned can cost anything into the $MM's depending on the artist.
Consumable costs are around $1.5k
Photographers are artists and therefore, the artist is worth what he can get - $50 to $500k
Pixi Foto in Australia, a shopping mall franchise went from $85MM/year to broke in just 3 years after 25 years+ in business. There are no longer any successful photography studios in shopping malls (in Australia) any more.
Shopping malls lack customer engagement and selling techniques.
However, good photography studios still thrive.
In Australia, something like 75% of all photographers make less than the average wage, but the top 5% earn into the $MM's.
It is not about the product, it is how it is marketed and sold.
@ Pearce - what business are you currently providing?
Sadly, he did not reach his kickstarter goal, but good on him for trying.
I like his thinking - create awareness with a great product, opens up possibilities to a franchise, and being in many areas will see him as the industry expert & leader.
I have always considered the dslr array best for B2B with high quality for electronic use.
3D figurines make it a value added product but it is not the main money area.
People do not value what they pay little for.
When was the last time you heard someone complain about the new (not second hand) car they purchased?
If the figurine business was handled like good photography businesses then they would all be making $1MM+ / year.
There has to be customer engagement with an experience.
A good sales person presenting the images well, will do very well.
I intend to do this and make it a premium piece with the large 'bust' figurine.
Small colour figurines are too gimmicky and people will not pay for a gimmick.
A bronze bust to be commissioned can cost anything into the $MM's depending on the artist.
Consumable costs are around $1.5k
Photographers are artists and therefore, the artist is worth what he can get - $50 to $500k
Pixi Foto in Australia, a shopping mall franchise went from $85MM/year to broke in just 3 years after 25 years+ in business. There are no longer any successful photography studios in shopping malls (in Australia) any more.
Shopping malls lack customer engagement and selling techniques.
However, good photography studios still thrive.
In Australia, something like 75% of all photographers make less than the average wage, but the top 5% earn into the $MM's.
It is not about the product, it is how it is marketed and sold.
@ Pearce - what business are you currently providing?
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Planning to open 3D scan studio
« on: May 25, 2015, 07:54:28 AM »
In my opinion, I have to question the viability of a DSLR array for 3D Figurines.
The businesses model has been handled very poorly with operators charging insanely low prices.
As a photographer, I have sold quality 2D printed portrait packages for up to $5k with a total consumable cost of less then $500.
This business model can place you in the $1mm bracket based on good business principles.
I know of business that have tried to sell figurines from $99.
This is insane - it is not sustainable.
Do people really think that a low price is valued by the consumer and get you more work?
The answer is NO!
The talent that goes into creating a quality model is enormous - you cannot sell these for low prices.
If you compete on price alone, then it is a spiral to the bottom.
Camera arrays are too labour intensive for high volume work.
I believe there is an opportunity to create a good business model at the high end - $3-5k per package.
It should be $5-10k if your costs are less than 10% of what you charge (labour, capital, time and consumables) then you are set
$1mm = $5k per day 40 weeks per year.
Good luck!
The businesses model has been handled very poorly with operators charging insanely low prices.
As a photographer, I have sold quality 2D printed portrait packages for up to $5k with a total consumable cost of less then $500.
This business model can place you in the $1mm bracket based on good business principles.
I know of business that have tried to sell figurines from $99.
This is insane - it is not sustainable.
Do people really think that a low price is valued by the consumer and get you more work?
The answer is NO!
The talent that goes into creating a quality model is enormous - you cannot sell these for low prices.
If you compete on price alone, then it is a spiral to the bottom.
Camera arrays are too labour intensive for high volume work.
I believe there is an opportunity to create a good business model at the high end - $3-5k per package.
It should be $5-10k if your costs are less than 10% of what you charge (labour, capital, time and consumables) then you are set
$1mm = $5k per day 40 weeks per year.
Good luck!
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General / Markers - targets & points
« on: May 17, 2015, 05:00:35 AM »
I am attempting to build a large object - a diesel motor which is 3.5Lx2Hx1.5W meters.
I used 10 cameras vertically every 18 degrees (200 images)
I placed around 30, 12 bit markers around the object.
I built each 10 camera section as a chunk (20 chunks).
Some chunks only recognise 2 targets which won't align or merge.
I have tried to create manual points within each chunk, however, when I merge, it does not sen to work.
Is there a correct procedure for adding points manually to chunks and then align thechunks with these points?
I used 10 cameras vertically every 18 degrees (200 images)
I placed around 30, 12 bit markers around the object.
I built each 10 camera section as a chunk (20 chunks).
Some chunks only recognise 2 targets which won't align or merge.
I have tried to create manual points within each chunk, however, when I merge, it does not sen to work.
Is there a correct procedure for adding points manually to chunks and then align thechunks with these points?
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General / Re: New tutorial on how to create a Marvelous Designer avatar from 3D-scan
« on: April 19, 2015, 12:06:39 PM »
Another Must Have!
This is exciting stuff!
This is exciting stuff!
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Find picture used for specific texture area (e.g. remove reflection in eyes)
« on: March 20, 2015, 04:18:07 AM »
Possibly better to do it in Mudbox or Modo after the file has been created.
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Auto topologize and rig your 3Dscan - Quantum Human
« on: February 12, 2015, 10:02:03 PM »
I must have this 
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Face and Body Scanning / Syntheyes
« on: October 14, 2014, 09:33:25 AM »
Does anyone have any knowledge on how to use Syntheyes for tracking and making a more accurate point cloud?
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: How to overcome flash sync limit of 1/200th
« on: October 04, 2014, 08:20:20 AM »
Your shutter speed becomes the duration of the flash.
I use Bowens Quadx (3000 joules across 4 heads) which can give you 1/7000 sec @ t0.5
This equates to 1/2200 sec at t=0.90
This is a duration that is guaranteed to freeze and self propelled human motion and is what most dance photographers use.
It can be Broncolor, Pro-foto, Bowen's whatever, as long as it is high speed, short duration.
It can be expensive though.
I have no trouble synching 60xD56200's at 1/200th sec.
f/stop is typically between f/16 and f22 @ 100asa and scrimmed heavily.
I use Bowens Quadx (3000 joules across 4 heads) which can give you 1/7000 sec @ t0.5
This equates to 1/2200 sec at t=0.90
This is a duration that is guaranteed to freeze and self propelled human motion and is what most dance photographers use.
It can be Broncolor, Pro-foto, Bowen's whatever, as long as it is high speed, short duration.
It can be expensive though.
I have no trouble synching 60xD56200's at 1/200th sec.
f/stop is typically between f/16 and f22 @ 100asa and scrimmed heavily.
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Face and Body Scanning / Rendering : Mac or PC?
« on: September 30, 2014, 07:07:20 AM »
I have my 80 camera Nikon D5200 rig.
(Canon offered no support at all in Australia - Nikon were willing to talk and are my new best friends)
Smart Shooter 3 works great!
Now comes the rendering.
Currently Mac based.
I need to have a new system for rendering Photo Scan.
Can anyone indicate if Mac or PC will be a better choice?
Mac Pro 6 core 64Gbram, dual gpu (AU$11,500)
(Canon offered no support at all in Australia - Nikon were willing to talk and are my new best friends)
Smart Shooter 3 works great!
Now comes the rendering.
Currently Mac based.
I need to have a new system for rendering Photo Scan.
Can anyone indicate if Mac or PC will be a better choice?
Mac Pro 6 core 64Gbram, dual gpu (AU$11,500)
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: The Business of 3D Scanning
« on: July 30, 2014, 12:00:56 AM »
Its all good and interesting, but it seems to me that a new thread is called for here:)
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: The Business of 3D Scanning
« on: July 27, 2014, 10:54:39 AM »
I am glad that people are engaging in this topic.
I have learned much from it.
Thank you all.
Does anyone know what the 'big' players (xxArray, Infinite Realities, Ten24) are charging for full body scans ready for integration to a project?
I have learned much from it.
Thank you all.
Does anyone know what the 'big' players (xxArray, Infinite Realities, Ten24) are charging for full body scans ready for integration to a project?
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