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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Ready made solutions for full body 3D
« on: December 12, 2014, 02:32:20 PM »
We are also offering ready to run / turn key solutions - started one year ago with our 3D-APPARAT based upon 146 raspberry PI cameras, we are now offering hybrid solutions based upon 146 raspberry PI cameras plus DSLR cameras - and since approx. 2 months we are offering a 3D-APPARAT HD. The 3D-APPARAT HD is a modular system that starts with 60 cameras and can be extended by plug and play to an unlimited number of cameras. Offering high speed sync for the cameras ( 1/200 sec) and also flash support.
Prices starts at 25.000€ for a 3D-APPARAT (146 cams with 5MP each). A 3D-APPARAT HD KIT is available from 39.000€ (including 60 Canon 100D cameras) and a ready to run, mobile (!!) solution with 60 DSLR cameras (Canon 100D) is available starting from 58.000€. All systems are extendable, plug & play and self monitoring. We do not use USB communication or active USB HUBs and guarantee a robust and stable solution with automated upload features.

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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: March 22, 2014, 09:26:51 PM »

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: March 22, 2014, 09:26:26 PM »
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Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: March 22, 2014, 09:25:48 PM »
fengkan - the raspberry cams and the pi are network devices with simple chips - they are not usable "out of the box" you have to tweak a lot and my solution was, writing my own code to "control" the camera module. You should know what you are doing, using such a development environment.

But once you make it, the results are great for such divices.... see attachment - this are the photoscan results without any tweaking with zBrush or other tools. Purely photoscan...

And... if you do not want to go through all that pain - why don't you just buy one ready to operate solution from me  ??? - we sell our 3D-APPARAT as a turn key solution with 1,6 x 1,6 x 2,25 Meters footprint including 150 cameras and a tablet to operate the system secure and easily for only 25.000€ (plus VAT)... /

General / Re: Zbrush - Workflow
« on: January 10, 2014, 01:10:15 PM »
@wishgranter: Well - it's not The Q... it's me ;) - the only one I do not have to ask if I can publish...

I am based in Germany - exact address is

weltwunderbar GmbH
Neddelstenhof 1
23619 Hamberge

General / Re: Zbrush - Workflow
« on: January 10, 2014, 11:24:52 AM »
@wishgranter: I am also in that Full Body Scanning and Printing business...

We are just releasing our first Full Body Scanner that is exactly made with the intention "everybody" is asking for (OK - not you Exhale...) . A fully automated process... The result is our 3D-APPARAT (please do not visit the webpage at this time - we invest all time in the setup of the machine and the processes behind them). Here is a first preview of the system:

The pictures are uploaded automatically to our file servers. From there we have to select the folder in PS and have the usual steps been done by PS (at this time without masking to save computing time...) . It would be perfect to have that in a batch process without a GUI and a user that has to click and point as we always have to do the same steps and have somebody watching the screen to initiate the next step... should be better done by a computer - but that is up to Agisoft.
The generated mesh is uploaded to a folder where a meshlabserver process is waiting for it to smooth it (automatically) with one filter setting and upload it back to a PS folder where a (again) human has to load it back to PS to generate the texture.

That's all... and the results are at this stage (without any zBrushing or similar) look like this: (and the 3D-APPARAT will be sold for approx. 20.000€ - please have that in mind, comparing with other solutions...)

This results are ONLY thought for 3D printing in a scale up to 1:10! Nothing more or else. Even the small spikes will not be visible in the 3D printing (even though they will be eliminated later...) We know that scans can be of higher quality - but they are needed for different applications! It's like driving a Formular 1 car in a town - doesn't make sense as it is made for a different application....

You are right, Lee (and Exhale) - quality is key, you know it better than most of us and for your application it is more than true. But for the grandparents that want to put their grandchilds on their chimney, "future is now" and the next scan will be done next year. Within this time everything will be improved - as I wrote - everything depends on the application.

Is somebody of you willing to upload models (full body scans) with the same stage of "no zBrushing"? I really would be interested in seeing other non-clear / non-makeup results.

Thank you!

General / Re: CPU and GPU benchmarks
« on: January 07, 2014, 05:16:13 PM »
As we are looking for some new machines I appriciate your work and all updates regarding new results.

BTW - did someone try photoscan on the new Mac Pro?

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 11, 2013, 10:47:14 PM »
@mala - the RaspberryPI is a network device - this means - downloading and managing is implemented by it's roots. It is really the other way round - you have all the possibilities with sync and timing - but have lack of optical system... we all do have our challenges  ;-)
Using RaspberryPI AND real Cameras is the perfect world - but who want's to live in a perfect world?

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 11, 2013, 08:38:59 PM »
Yes.... They are Raspberries...

we planned to use Canons - but we did not want to run into too many syncronizing problems. Therefore - and as our background is tcp/ip networking and other it stuff - we decided to have something "controlable" within our hands. Raspberry PI is (beneath Arduino and similar) a good solution for that... then we decided just to add some camera modules to have some fancy 3D HD video as a add on.... well that was the day we decided to go a completly other way and focus on the cameras and build a "cheap" 3D photo booth...

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 11, 2013, 07:21:17 PM »
COOL! With 0.0014 x 0.0014 it works as expected!

Seems like an "beginners mistake" - I hope that I haven't distrubed too much and maybe some other beginners learned a lesson ;-)

Thank you all!

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 11, 2013, 07:08:06 PM »
Of course - the camera is a Omnivision OV5647 (

Pixel size should be 1.4 x 1.4 µm...

and no - i have not been entering it into my config - I even have not thought about it... sorry. Will try that and do that NOW....

Face and Body Scanning / Re: Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 11, 2013, 05:34:21 PM »
@Andreas: Thank you for your input - yes - this will help after the complete setup to have reliable and repeatable scans. We will do that. Thank you. The main problem at this stage is that if you put 25 photos inside the workflow everything is fine - if you add just one "not alignable" photo, even the other 25 cameras are not correct anymore..

@Alexey - Of course, I will send you the dataset - I will contact you with a private message to get details where to send to.

@All: Just to make sure to point this out: I am aware that we are using VERY poor quality pictures and we are working at the edge of the possibilities. Sometimes we have less than 8000 detected points to be matched. The model is based only upon a few more than 3000 points.... I know that better cameras (better pictures) will solve all problems. But this is not the point at this moment - my problem is that the program works perfectly until there are some "bad" pictures inside - beside of sorting them out/dropping them, everything breaks...

Face and Body Scanning / Full Body Scanner / aligning of photos
« on: December 10, 2013, 11:23:58 PM »
I am currently setting up a full body scanner using inexpensive 5MP camera modules. I am not looking for a perfect 1:1 scale usage of the models - models will be later printed out between 2 cm (!) and 20cm - I do not need all details - even though I love the work of INFINITE/LEE. Thank you for all inspirations!

This setup and quality works fine and the results are promising. Today we are setting up 40 cameras for 180 degree - I expect that we end up with 100 cameras (total material cost of that full body scanner will be less than 10.000€). Plan is to roll out some hundrets of that 3D photo booths around the world  :)

My question / problem is:

If I use the first setup up pictures (27 pcs) at once (load all into PS) and then apply a background mask, PS is not able to align the photos (Attchment 1). The cameras are completly wrong orientated. If use chunks (also with applied background mask) and put inside the first 8 pictures (head) - all pictures are alligned perfectly. If I put another 4 to that "working" chunk, again fine - photos are alingned (attachment 2). This works perfectly until some photos are not alignable (in our case the feet where the cameras are not set up perfectly at this time...) (attachment 3).

How can we solve that problem that we first have to detect the "distroying" pictures and than can build a model? I would love to put all photos inside and get the non alignable photos sorted out - but why are the photos that can obviously be aligned perfectly also disorientiated??

Any comment welcome...

Hi Magnus,

it seems you had a same "problem" I currentyl have - you have Canon and Nikon in the mix. I still try to find out the pros and cons and kindly ask for your experience. I assume you are using the kit-lenses? Do you see - in you daily work and only from your own point of view - any advantages of one of these? Most decide for Canon because of software based Breeze/MultiCamera solutions - you seem to use a "handmade" solution (which I currently prefere because of budget reasons) - other deside agains Nikon 3200 because of "blury" images. But there is rarely nothing to find about the real-life usage.

Steve - do you already have samples with the 1100s? Also with kit lenses? Whats the focal lenght you used?

Thank you !!

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