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General / Should unwanted items such as plants surrounding the subject be edited out ?

« on: June 20, 2019, 05:54:41 PM »

Hi,
Can photoscan cope with background textures unwanted in the final 3D object, such as vegetation or gravel etc ?
I photographed a vintage vehicle open beam chassis after clearing away plants that had grown around it but I only flattened them. Also photographed items placed on someones tarmac driveway, others on a concrete floor, another in a museum, another on bare soil.  To have to edit white in up to the edge of the object in every photo, of which there are hundreds, in fact a few thousand, will take forever. Can photoscan deal with plants etc or the fact that they move whilst the object is static, will that cause failure or inaccuracy ? When the item gets turned on its side or upside down to photo its underside, how does photoscan cope with the changes ? What about the items in the museum on the museum floor or on the walls or structure in the ceiling ?
Should all this be edited out as the mask method before the photos are put into a new photoscan project ? many hundreds of photos, thousands in fact to do if that is required.
Its not always possible to be in a nice studio with the object on a white background with flash umbrellas !
Can I not remove the resulting unwanted areas after the point cloud is made in the first stage.
Worried that Agisoft will find this extra distracting 'material' a problem and fail in processing.

If it has to be masked out, must it be accurate pixel perfect right up to the edge or will a rough trim leaving a bit showing around the object which would be far quicker to do, be enough ?
Steve

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General / Re: no operating systems listed for metashape

« on: April 25, 2019, 02:11:24 PM »

Hi,
Thats good to know, so the issue cant be that then.
Can the OS systems it works with please be put on the website under requirements etc.
Other progs do so as normal practice and being uncertain can deter potential new users.

Regards

Steve

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Bug Reports / Re: metashape trial wont launch and freezes up PC win 7 64bit pro

« on: April 23, 2019, 10:49:13 PM »

Hi Alexey,

What is the range of the NVIDIA drivers that are accepted by the other applications that you are using? I would recommend to use either driver 382.53 from the older ones, or 399.07 or newer.

3DF Zephyr spec doesn’t mention a driver range, it does say CUDA is good to have.
AliceVisionMeshrom again I can’t see indication of drivers though DepthMap requires CUDA.
Blender Mesh editor no driver range indicated.
Meshmixer  no indication of a driver range.
Meshlab no indication of a driver range.

My testing was:-
Backup PC, it was running photoscan demo 1.2.6 demo only.
Install Metashape, launch fail, PC froze, hot power off., reboot
Add Agisoft to exclusion folder Kaspersky, try again, still fail.
Install AliceVisionMeshroom, it launched. Run it, it stopped 60% into project.
Install 3DF Zephyr, it said CUDA not found.
Install Autodesk ReCap, it asked for a further download of recap, which wouldn’t install.
Install CUDA toolkit 10.1 it updated driver from 372.90 to 418.96
Install Visual C++ 2015 
Install 3DF Zephyr again, it installed. It ran. Made a mess though of a project photoscan had done pretty well on.
Install Autodesk extra ReCap exe again, still wouldn’t install. (recap had 3 exe files, all a bit odd really)
Installed Metashape, see if it needed CUDA and latest driver, it ran, but would not allow re-centre or pan, was exceptionally slow, no zoom much. As if on an ancient PC, Exported model examined it in Rhino, total mess. So even if it runs its no use. Something wrong !
To see if CUDA was successfully installed, I restored PC back to pretesting stage.
Installed Metashape again, same issue, black DoS screen and froze PC.
Installed CUDA  Install Visual C++ 2015  and Visual Studio 2015  etc.
Installed 3DF Zephyr, and it didn’t say CUDA not found so CUDA is operational ! it runs.
Installed Metashape, this time it wouldn’t run, same black Dos panel and PC freeze up, task Mgr unable to close it. Hot shut down.
Install Autodesk Recap start with the exe it asked for , it installed this time, program runs. Most confusing and frustrating win8 type  interface no idea how to load photos, looks nothing like youtube tutorial.
Uninstall metashape, Install Photoscan 1.4.5 it runs, test on my test projects.

If you are still experiencing the navigation issues in the model view, please provide the output from the Console pane, specify, if the Object or Terrain navigation mode is enabled in the Model Menu.

I am unable to get metashape to run so cannot do so.

Hard computer crashes and freezes, blue screens are common indication of the issues with hardware or drivers.

I have not had PC freeze up, before metashape, only Metashape did this, the black dos window has not even the ability to type exit into it, it refuses to close, I cannot end task it, and nothing else is clickable, only option is hold power button in. After doing this a few times on attempts to install and run Metashape, I had a blue screen fault 000000F4, I have had three of these now since Christmas, a reboot sees PC operational. I intend to run checkdisc on each of my disks, suggestion it might be out of date graphics driver obviously not true as it did BSOD with the latest driver !  All progs of mine run, all the test progs ran, I have many progs, the only prog to ever not run has been metashape.

In case you have issues with the data processing, please provide the parameters, processing log and the screenshot of the results both from PhotoScan (that you find acceptable) and Metashape (that is not good).

I will email you the screenshots from photoscan and from metashape.
I can access my email only after I reinstate my backup, as whilst I am testing if I open email I am then making out of date the backup. I can uninstall reinstall etc knowing that I can revert to a pre messed up PC should any uninstalling leave bits lying about !
I have found that CUDA 2nd time didn’t mess up flight sim, though MetaShape wouldn’t run, and loading on the 11 april driver (latest) SIM still worked ok, and Metashape still wouldnt run, so after I reinstate backup I will add CUDA and Visual C++ 2015  and Visual Studio 2015  etc.
I will however read into this Visual stuff as certainly I felt as if I was being taken over by what I saw of Visual Studio, I like to have things IF THEY ARE OF USE TO ME, AND VITAL.
One should run with latest driver, though I tend to go with what works , why I stayed with 372.90 as sometimes latest might have a problem a previous one didn’t have. If latest solves the ‘tearing’ on verticals in my videos when panned I will be happy.

Steve003

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Bug Reports / Re: metashape trial wont launch and freezes up PC win 7 64bit pro

« on: April 21, 2019, 11:10:55 PM »

Hi,
I was running demo mode Photoscan 1.2.6 build 2834 thus I needed to install metascan and not upgrade to it.

I didnt uninstall photoscan before installing metashape as I saw no instructions to do so.

I then installed 3DF Zephyr but it said CUDA not found, so installed CUDA 10.1 from Nvidia and this also updated the driver from 372.9 to 418.96 causing problems with my flight sim. before reinstating my C drive backup I tried for metashape again.
I had also unblocked popups in Firefox for Autodesk which also refused to install, and installed both without kaspersky running. Whilst Autodesk still wouldnt install a third exe ( 3 exe's it required) at least metashape then ran...hooray. 

However the same photos and settings I used in photoscan saw it unable to centre view, zoom the object, it was as if it was installed on a win 3.1 machine ! 
Photoscan was slick fast, as if the object was lightweight.

I am Intel core i7 4790 3.6GHz  32Gb DDR Corsair Vengeance Pro ram GTX970 4Gb ram

as such Metashape was no use for viewing and editing the object, removing unwanted points etc, just could not navigate the 3D window.  Photoscan is far better on my pc.

If Win7 64bit pro works with metashape, why is it that slow ?

I exported the object as obj to see what it had created in a CAD prog.

Opened it into Rhino3D and oh dear its a disaster,  its as if its made a top and bottom of the object then fused them together side by side, yet its the same object same settings as in photoscan which gave very good result especially considering that I didnt use masks on this test, I wanted a prog that handled what you get rough and ready when on site with museum ceilings , variable photo quality with flash, poor DoF and blurs and cables running across photos.

I expected metashape to improve on the photoscan model and as such I am gutted I had these issues after I got it to run.

 I am now back with old driver as I need the flight sim operational. Photoscan made a really nice job of another exhaust stack in 1hr 38mins and meshroom took 2hr 34 .
Why was metashape so incapable of zoom and rotate and centre view with CUDA and up to date driver ?
Now I am unable to run it, either way it was not good for me, and I so wanted it to be.

Steve

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General / no operating systems listed for metashape

« on: April 20, 2019, 07:21:21 PM »

Hi,
there is no indication anywhere on the requirements page of what operating system metashape will work with. Installing a program on a pc that doesnt have the correct operating system can cause problems, Why must users risk that happening to their pc to find out ?

Should Metashape work on windows 7 64bit pro ?

I just cannot get it to launch, I get a black filled floating cmd window and pc locks up.

Steve

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Bug Reports / metashape trial wont launch and freezes up PC win 7 64bit pro

« on: April 20, 2019, 07:07:23 PM »

Hi,  I have just installed Metashape 64bit demo , I was running Photoscan perfectly ok yesterday. I create shortcut to the exe file, double click it, get a black dos type window, task manager unable to end task metashape, I am even unable to close down PC, I eventually get PC shutting down, but it wont after 5 mins shut down, I have to hold power button in, if I was running raid this would lose all synchronisation and mean a total PC rebuild. This prog needs testing on a win7 64bit pro pc with anything that might mess it up, inc norton, kaspersky and others.  What a cock up !
I have spent ages creating photo sets to test this on and its messed up the pc instead. Photoscan never did this.

Also there is nothing on the agisoft website to say what operating systems this works with, and nothing to warn of potential problems and what to do to get it to run.

I have added agisoft folder to excluded list Kaspersky. then run metashape and yet again we get the black dos box, which I cant X close, PC is locked up.
I have had to reinstate the acronis backup made just prior, glad I did do that. I shouldnt be having to do a restore after installing Agisoft.

This is terrible, so disappointing, had hoped to buy metashape.

will this metashape in theory run on win7 64bit pro ?

How can I get this to run, someone mentioned that the beta version solved this for them, where is that beta version ?

Steve

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Face and Body Scanning / Will Agisoft work with 1 camera if human stay dead still and hold breath ?

« on: September 13, 2016, 01:41:25 AM »

Hi,
I need to create a 3D model of a human male wearing nothing but just shorts and socks rolled down over shoes, kneeling down and another separate session with same guy standing up holding arm up, it will be far easier to photo someone than try and create this in 3D programs, especially trying to model the clothing, hours versus days of work. If I place three garden canes tied together at top as a triangle  to support the wrist or even use my photo tripod to support his elbow and move around taking photos very quickly on a canon 70D in RAW mode fast shutter speed 1/500 f8 800asa  (freeze movement, good DoF and lens sweet spot ! correct exposure cloudy bright), on manual exposure on a cloudy bright day with no breeze, so no shadows or material movement, is there a good chance of success ? If a part of the human doesnt move relative to another part of the human, surely it will work ?

If I give it a few sessions then knit the parts that do work together and heal up the gaps maybe ?

What prog/software is there that is affordable on a tight budget or free to heal the gaps up if I need to do it this way ?

Has anyone tried such and is it just impossible ? How fussy is the prog if something moves a few mm on something human size ?

I cant see there being a problem if human sways a bit as thats no different to me moving to and fro as I shoot.

What about the bushes or grass though, they move, do I have to paint them out of the picture in photoshop ?

What about things in the background of a photoshoot in fact ?

Will it be ok on areas of skin if photographed on a current dslr and a very good quality lens ?

Steve003