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General / Re: Computer/Laptop suggestions
« on: October 02, 2013, 03:28:04 AM »
Hello!
 If the PC has no connection to the internet (=no firewall&antivirus) it will calculate 3D-models a way faster.
Greets



Is there any precise statistic/info  regarding that?  My antivirus proudly graphs of how little it takes of the cpu. Is it all bs?

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General / What cameras/lenses are preferable for photoscan?
« on: October 02, 2013, 02:37:45 AM »
I tried with  8M cell phone camera and it turned into a mess mostly. Photos didn't match each other or not very good at least.    Same with cheap Canon pont-and-shot.   I tried other person photos of Nikon DSLR camera and it seems that they work better.

Does  it depend on camera or lenses at all or rather way of how pictures were taken?  Amount of noise?  Corner sharpness? Vignetting?  Aperture value?  Barrel distortion?    Maybe a specific camera brand?  I am going to buy a new camera but don't want DSLR actually.   I am looking for a kind of smaller mirrorless camera and would like to be sure it would suite photoscan tasks well.


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General / Re: Why photoscan over 123Dcatch ? newbie
« on: September 26, 2012, 08:37:08 PM »
kirk, do you have a idea how costly is to maintain service like this in a day - month  ?
 They buy a LOT of servers and give it for free ??
do you think that a so big player will give something for free to everyone  ???

This puzzles me too.   This and better texture quality/photo stitching are going to make me buying  Photoscan.  Just have some doubts that Autodesk doesn't allow to use 123 commercially. They tell you can on their forum. Who knows, perhaps they just want to make the whole idea of photogrammetry more popular.   

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General / Re: Why photoscan over 123Dcatch ? newbie
« on: September 26, 2012, 07:55:28 PM »
(i)  you automatically grant to us and our sub-licensees (and warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted to us and our sub-licensees) the worldwide, perpetual, royalty-free, fully paid-up, irrevocable, non-exclusive, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right and license to have Access to, store, display, reproduce, use, disclose, transmit, view, reproduce, modify, adapt, translate, publish, broadcast, perform and display (whether publicly or otherwise), distribute, re-distribute, transmit, save and use  Your Content (in whole or in part) for any reason and/or purpose (whether commercial or non-commercial) by any and all means in any and all media, forms, formats, platforms and technologies now known or hereafter devised, invented, developed or improved in connection with the Service, Autodesk Materials or our business generally.

That quote is a part of a bigger statement


"(b)           Sharing Your Content.  The Service may permit or require you to share Your Content to one or more public area(s) designated for that purpose, including on our web site(s).  If that is the case, by uploading, posting, publishing, transmitting, displaying, distributing, emailing, saving,  sharing or otherwise transmitting or making available Your Content to a public area of the Service or through the Service to another public location:

(i)  you automatically grant to us and our sub-licensees (and warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted to us and our sub-licensees) the worldwide, perpetual, royalty-free, fully paid-up, irrevocable, non-exclusive"   and so on.

If I am not wrong that part (i)  goes after "If that's the case" of sharing your content. Which you could not share I believe.


Later in paragraph  (c)  in case you don't want to share things


        " (c) Keeping Your Content Non-public.  The Service may also permit you to choose not to post or publish onto public area(s) designated for sharing (e.g., Your Content published into a private area on our web site(s) or, to the extent allowed by the Service, emailed to or Accessed by solely your authorized designees, or Your Content using our Software without posting or publishing onto a public area of the Service. In these situations, (i) we will not authorize Your Content to be shared with others publicly [although we cannot promise complete data  security (e.g., of cloud servers)]: (ii) you automatically grant to us and our sub-licensees (and warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted to us and our sub-licensees) a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, paid-up, worldwide, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) license to have Access to, store, display, reproduce, modify, use, disclose, distribute and transmit such Your Content for purposes of providing, maintaining, repairing, protecting, organizing and/or otherwise administering or providing to you products, services and/or features on the Service (e.g., allowing Your Content to be emailed to or Accessed by your authorized designees),to comply with applicable laws/regulations/legal proceedings, in the ordinary course of our (or our designated third parties’) providing, improving and/or modifying the Service or any of products and/or services, including  extracting, compiling, aggregating, synthesizing, using, and otherwise analyzing all or any portion of Your Content and information, and to disclose such Content and information and the results of any such analysis in aggregated form or any other form that does not specifically identify you unless emailed to or Accessed by your authorized designees or otherwise permitted by these Terms.  "

Still a bit confusing  but looks like they claim some rights only "for purposes of providing, maintaining, repairing etc"   
Although from my personal experience if any contract have something unclear it is always against you. They definitely might write it more straight.



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General / Re: Why photoscan over 123Dcatch ? newbie
« on: September 26, 2012, 05:44:05 PM »
my last commnet on this:
read carefuly what GeeVee wrote and im forget it to mention too:

However, do not forget that (as Wishgranter said), 123D it is NOT for commercial purposes and last time I checked (I think about one year ago) you transfer the copyright of your content to Autodesk.

do you know what that mean in real life ??????? do you know why they give it "FREE" ??

YOU give COPYRIGHT to AUTODESK, they are the OWNER of YOUR stuff !!!! if they want and they they WILL sooner or later sue YOU that you use THEIR DATA...

I am curious where did you read this.  I do not argue but from what I read a few days ago in their Terms of Service  http://sitesupport.123dapp.com/entries/20059427  point 3 "your content"
it looks like you give them copyright only if you decide to share/publish your content.  If not they just do not promise to keep it 100% secure.   At least it's what I understood from their legal language

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