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Re: Agisoft Metashape 2.2.0 pre-release
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2024, 10:09:31 PM »
Hello,

The new April Tag Detect marker feature has the "merge with existing markers" option greyed out, circular ones work .
Please add the functionality equivalent to the circle tags.

Its incredible useful and makes the april tag detection feature somewhat useless in complex projects.

Thanks!



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« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2024, 02:15:04 PM »
Hello Dragon777,

Thank you for noticing the problem. It will be fixed in the next 2.2.0 update.
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« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2025, 07:50:21 PM »
I have a project with about 7000 photos and 15 laser scans and the alignment process reached pretty fast at 70% but now it takes about 24 hours to move by 1%. It is at 74% now and by that speed it will take a month to finish. Is that normal? The CPU is maxed out most of the time as well as my ram (which unfortunately at the moment is only 32GB but I have a lot of SSD free space to work with virtual memory). Is this maybe a bug of the 2.2.0 version? or is my limited ram the reason for this extreme slow processing?

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« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2025, 07:17:58 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2025, 09:17:36 PM »
I have a project with about 7000 photos and 15 laser scans and the alignment process reached pretty fast at 70% but now it takes about 24 hours to move by 1%. It is at 74% now and by that speed it will take a month to finish. Is that normal? The CPU is maxed out most of the time as well as my ram (which unfortunately at the moment is only 32GB but I have a lot of SSD free space to work with virtual memory). Is this maybe a bug of the 2.2.0 version? or is my limited ram the reason for this extreme slow processing?

You need multiple SSDs for best results ... store source data, project files, and OS installation (startup drive) all on separate drives (three drives)
I don't see a way to specify a Temp directory for Metashape, presumably this is stored on the startup drive.

You also need more RAM than 32Gb, virtual memory is almost useless because it will cripple the speed, although separating source data, project files, and OS installation on separate drives might help. That way the system is not reading and writing to the same drive.

The video card is also relevant, ideally you would have an Nvidia card to support CUDA with at least 6 - 8Gb.
If you have less than 6Gb on your video card, or are using an integrated GPU, that will also translate to a reduction in processing speed.

I'm sorry to say if you you don't have slots to allow for 3 SSDs and cannot add more RAM, I think you you will have to suffer through it until you can get a new computer.


« Last Edit: January 12, 2025, 09:24:38 PM by chrisd »

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« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2025, 11:19:02 PM »
I have a project with about 7000 photos and 15 laser scans and the alignment process reached pretty fast at 70% but now it takes about 24 hours to move by 1%. It is at 74% now and by that speed it will take a month to finish. Is that normal? The CPU is maxed out most of the time as well as my ram (which unfortunately at the moment is only 32GB but I have a lot of SSD free space to work with virtual memory). Is this maybe a bug of the 2.2.0 version? or is my limited ram the reason for this extreme slow processing?

You need multiple SSDs for best results ... store source data, project files, and OS installation (startup drive) all on separate drives (three drives)
I don't see a way to specify a Temp directory for Metashape, presumably this is stored on the startup drive.

You also need more RAM than 32Gb, virtual memory is almost useless because it will cripple the speed, although separating source data, project files, and OS installation on separate drives might help. That way the system is not reading and writing to the same drive.

The video card is also relevant, ideally you would have an Nvidia card to support CUDA with at least 6 - 8Gb.
If you have less than 6Gb on your video card, or are using an integrated GPU, that will also translate to a reduction in processing speed.

I'm sorry to say if you you don't have slots to allow for 3 SSDs and cannot add more RAM, I think you you will have to suffer through it until you can get a new computer.


I have two fast nvme drives in my PC and I have set the virtual memory to be on the c drive and on the second d ssd drive which is a 2tb I only have this project. My PC is very powerfull with a 13900hx CPU and rtx 4090 16gb vram. At the moment I have 32gb ram but I have ordered a 2x48gb (96gb) and waiting for it to arrive, so at the moment I have to work with the 32gb. My question regarding if this is normal or not is because I see the CPU is almost always maxed out it doesn't wait for data to process from the disks. Now it has reached 75% from 70% after 3 days. My client is waiting for me to deliver some orthophtos and I don't even know to tell him approximately when it will be ready.. Every day it passes the estimate time raises.

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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2025, 10:47:57 AM »
If you run out of 32GB memory, then it is obvious the processing will take very long time. Your laptop is only powerfull as your cooling solution is and your CPU is probably throttling. What are you current CPU frequencies and what phase is Metashape calculating now?

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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2025, 02:22:02 PM »
I have a project with about 7000 photos and 15 laser scans and the alignment process reached pretty fast at 70% but now it takes about 24 hours to move by 1%. It is at 74% now and by that speed it will take a month to finish. Is that normal? The CPU is maxed out most of the time as well as my ram (which unfortunately at the moment is only 32GB but I have a lot of SSD free space to work with virtual memory). Is this maybe a bug of the 2.2.0 version? or is my limited ram the reason for this extreme slow processing?

You need multiple SSDs for best results ... store source data, project files, and OS installation (startup drive) all on separate drives (three drives)
I don't see a way to specify a Temp directory for Metashape, presumably this is stored on the startup drive.

You also need more RAM than 32Gb, virtual memory is almost useless because it will cripple the speed, although separating source data, project files, and OS installation on separate drives might help. That way the system is not reading and writing to the same drive.

The video card is also relevant, ideally you would have an Nvidia card to support CUDA with at least 6 - 8Gb.
If you have less than 6Gb on your video card, or are using an integrated GPU, that will also translate to a reduction in processing speed.

I'm sorry to say if you you don't have slots to allow for 3 SSDs and cannot add more RAM, I think you you will have to suffer through it until you can get a new computer.


I have two fast nvme drives in my PC and I have set the virtual memory to be on the c drive and on the second d ssd drive which is a 2tb I only have this project. My PC is very powerfull with a 13900hx CPU and rtx 4090 16gb vram. At the moment I have 32gb ram but I have ordered a 2x48gb (96gb) and waiting for it to arrive, so at the moment I have to work with the 32gb. My question regarding if this is normal or not is because I see the CPU is almost always maxed out it doesn't wait for data to process from the disks. Now it has reached 75% from 70% after 3 days. My client is waiting for me to deliver some orthophtos and I don't even know to tell him approximately when it will be ready.. Every day it passes the estimate time raises.

This is not a powerful processing machine, no laptop is. You have bottle necks everywhere, Thermal, power, RAM, GPU.

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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2025, 03:22:30 PM »
This is not a powerful processing machine, no laptop is. You have bottle necks everywhere, Thermal, power, RAM, GPU.

I neglected to mention processor, of course that is relevant, perhaps the most relevant factor of all.
It is not entirely clear that the system is laptop unless the 13900hx is a mobile only version, or I missed where laptop is stated.


 

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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2025, 04:01:16 PM »
After running Align Photos... I selected photos that were not aligned, then right clicked and chose Align Selected Cameras. In the Workspace panel it indicates more of the photos aligned, but in the Model view the tie points from the original alignment are gone

Can you please confirm, if the issue is still observed in the latest 2.2.0 update?

Hi Alexey,
Still having issues. I ran Align Photos with Reset current alignment checked, it didn't align all the images. I selected the photos that were not aligned, right clicked and choose align selected cameras. Addition photos were aligned, but the number of tie points dropped to what I guess is the number of tie points for the newly aligned photos. I selected the remaining photos that weren't aligned, right clicked and choose align selected cameras again. More cameras were aligned and the number of tie points increased to what I guess is the total for the alignment.

1) initial alignment 411/440 images aligned, 554,264 tie points
2) second partial alignment, selected images not aligned right click align selected cameras, 417/440 images aligned, 1,856 tie points
3) third partial alignment, selected images not aligned right click align selected cameras, 421/440 images aligned, 567,531 tie points

This issue remains in version 2.2.0 build 19853.
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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2025, 07:23:34 PM »
This is not a powerful processing machine, no laptop is. You have bottle necks everywhere, Thermal, power, RAM, GPU.

I neglected to mention processor, of course that is relevant, perhaps the most relevant factor of all.
It is not entirely clear that the system is laptop unless the 13900hx is a mobile only version, or I missed where laptop is stated.

13900hx can only be found in laptops yes, its laptop CPU with very limited thermal room for processing.

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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2025, 10:33:22 PM »
This is not a powerful processing machine, no laptop is. You have bottle necks everywhere, Thermal, power, RAM, GPU.

I neglected to mention processor, of course that is relevant, perhaps the most relevant factor of all.
It is not entirely clear that the system is laptop unless the 13900hx is a mobile only version, or I missed where laptop is stated.

13900hx can only be found in laptops yes, its laptop CPU with very limited thermal room for processing.

The processing power of the 13900hx is not that far off from a 13900K(s) or even a 14900K(s) which is recommended as the best CPU for metashape by most benchmarks on the internet. On cinebench r23 I get 34000 points with -120mv undervolting and I avoid thermal throttling completely. The 13900K on cinebench r23 gets about 39000 points. It's not that big of a difference to describe this CPU as "weak". Also, I have undervolted my rtx 4090 which now boosts at 2200mhz and consumes only 130watts  (from the max 170) and the score I get in Timespy is 22000+ which exceeds a 3090ti desktop GPU which is also the last gen beast of a card for photogrammetry projects. So except for my limited RAM at the moment, I don't see any other reason why this project takes such a long time to process or there is a bug in the software.
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« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2025, 04:26:27 PM »
After running Align Photos... I selected photos that were not aligned, then right clicked and chose Align Selected Cameras. In the Workspace panel it indicates more of the photos aligned, but in the Model view the tie points from the original alignment are gone

Can you please confirm, if the issue is still observed in the latest 2.2.0 update?

Hi Alexey,
Still having issues. I ran Align Photos with Reset current alignment checked, it didn't align all the images. I selected the photos that were not aligned, right clicked and choose align selected cameras. Addition photos were aligned, but the number of tie points dropped to what I guess is the number of tie points for the newly aligned photos. I selected the remaining photos that weren't aligned, right clicked and choose align selected cameras again. More cameras were aligned and the number of tie points increased to what I guess is the total for the alignment.

1) initial alignment 411/440 images aligned, 554,264 tie points
2) second partial alignment, selected images not aligned right click align selected cameras, 417/440 images aligned, 1,856 tie points
3) third partial alignment, selected images not aligned right click align selected cameras, 421/440 images aligned, 567,531 tie points

This issue remains in version 2.2.0 build 19853.

Hello  bisenberger,

If you are still observing the same issue in 2.2.0.19890, can you please share the project to support@agisoft.com where we can just run Align Selected and have the problem reproduced?

I saw that some other users have similar problem, but not all and we are not yet able to reproduce it on our side trying different projects.
Best regards,
Alexey Pasumansky,
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« Reply #73 on: January 31, 2025, 05:59:25 AM »
Hi Alexey, I'm not sure if it has happened in build 19890, it hasn't happened in a while. If it does happen again, I will send you a link to the project.
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« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2025, 08:03:45 PM »
When merging chunks only the masks from the last chunk in the list of chunks to be merged are in the merged chunk. In previous masks from all the input chunks are in the merged chunks. I need all the masks to be in the merged chunk. Metashape Standard Version 2.2.0 build 19890