The Business of 3D Scanning

[Wishgranter]

The 3Dsystems(Zcorp)650cost new approx 60.000 eur. but the "real price is just about 8-10.000 eur as parts. Yes they get a lot of profit.... a lot of tech is pricey because of patents.....
im think in 2-3 years after important patents get free we can see printers with 15x10x10 buld size in price of say 2-3.000 eur so much more will be aviable. Have info ( working prototypes seen)that HP, canon and few others are preparing for 2015 to release a lot of 3d printers.... so be prepared.... 

[meshmixup]

Hi Foodman,

I think the patent talking about is the SLA 3d printing:

http://boingboing.net/2012/11/21/3ds-sues-innovative-new-3d-pri.html

Other than zprinter, there is another brand Cometruejet that works similar to it. Guess it is more cheaper. 

[Wishgranter]

Hmm interesting, but seeing the UI of the 3D printing app and few other things im think that behind this project are people from Zcorp that leave the company after  merging with 3D systems.....

interesting speed and quality, but their web is like from 90?s......

[Lambo]

Well, I think there is a lot of misinformation and questions about the Cubejet out in the web.
I have been looking around for a while now and I saw some tech specs about it once (I can not find it now) and they said that the build size is smaller and that the resolution was slightly worse than the bigger brothers.
As for the material, as far as I can tell, it is the same as the Projet 460, 660 or Zcorp Z450, Z650
the flexible material is the one on the bigger Projet 4500. There are a couple videos and links on the internet that mixes both and say that the Cubejet is making the flexible material but it seems to be only for the Projet 4500.
I REALLY HOPE I AM RIGHT

[FoodMan]

The 3Dsystems(Zcorp)650cost new approx 60.000 eur. but the "real price is just about 8-10.000 eur as parts. Yes they get a lot of profit.... a lot of tech is pricey because of patents.....
im think in 2-3 years after important patents get free we can see printers with 15x10x10 buld size in price of say 2-3.000 eur so much more will be aviable. Have info ( working prototypes seen)that HP, canon and few others are preparing for 2015 to release a lot of 3d printers.... so be prepared....

hey Milos... you're right.. let's wait a bit to see how things go... 

f/

[FoodMan]

these suppose to be from the new CubeJet printer.. but who knows if it's true..

[ttoke]

these suppose to be from the new CubeJet printer.. but who knows if it's true..

I suppose they can be, the quality is horrible compared to the bigger brothers. I also have a full colour figurine sample from projet 4500, you can't even compare the quality to 660 etc.

EDIT: 660 is better

[Wishgranter]

so the 4500 is much better with results ? can PM me screen ?? can order sample print but  im bit overwhelmed with other work....

[Exhale]

Hi,
We currently run Projet® 660pro , ProJet® 4500 as well as ProJet® 3500 HDMax.
I can confirm bot Projet® 660pro , ProJet® 4500 are have almots the same results in quality..
However used materials are different and their price too. I can say depends on purpose of using.
Next week, I will try to print the same object from two different printers and then upload some photos.
Also dear matey Wishgranter, you still keep it secret but thanks to Lord I sorted out the color issue long time ago...

[Lambo]

Well if that picture is indicative of the resolution on teh Cubejet, it definitely looks like it doesn't have even the quality of the ZCorp Z450 that I have. That would be a relief
Wishgranter or Exhale, do you guys know whats the difference in looks on a print between the Z450 and Z650? (Same as the Projet 460 and 660) I know the printing resolution is supposed to be the same but the quality of the textures is much better on the bigger ones right?
When I print, the models come out pretty nice but the textures never look as good as the ones I've seen from the bigger machines.
Leo

[Wishgranter]

Exhale, im a bit under NDA for the 3D printing and scanning, have signed  when started to work here in Prague..... so cannot say  about it in the "wild". BUT times are changing...... 

[FoodMan]

...... BUT times are changing......

 

[Wishgranter]

Foodman, silence please :-D 

[voudas]

lol can u even say what r u talking about??

[ruffy]

I am glad that people are engaging in this topic.
I have learned much from it.
Thank you all.

Does anyone know what the 'big' players (xxArray, Infinite Realities, Ten24) are charging for full body scans ready for integration to a project?